New Tag?

Redbosn wrote:
amen to that. you heard him guys, talk more!! .
on the issue of leadership, we are going more open/democratic this time around. kind of like the three branch system, with me having ultimate veto power hehe. basically i would like us to be more interactive, have everyone have more of a say in what we do, but i like to be able to put my fist down when needed.

as to the attack team, the reqs are usual. you need to be VERY active, more than 2 hrs per day, and practically check your acct all day, you have to be able to follow directions/orders/instructions to the letter, regardless of whether you like them or not, and you have to dedicate your resources to only building an army. not from the start, but once you have enough infrastructure, your army should be everything. and you have to have experience with timed attacks etc. if not, you better learn fast

Red, i now know why you wanted access to our forum... ;-)
you have copy pasted our internal leadershipstructure.
We have Lord Hildegrim, being all cooperative and nice, but decisive and respected when needed.

We will be in the same area, cropkilling and bleeding all that oppose us too, so make sure to relay the alliances you make to all branches, and all independent alliances like us that like to ride beside you and your band of madmen.
and as for me, i wont be an external diplomat, i'll be the internal diplomat, freaking out ppl that go yellow too much.

some of us have not forgotten that you called us all sorts of things, that can be mildly summarised as independent, or harshly summarized as spoiled noob kids, so my sincere advise is to cooperate in a good businesslike style, and to keep sarcasm, or witty remarks, or ... well, anything our sensitive members might find offensive, or could explain wrong, to a minimum... ;-)
but you can bitch at us all you want, as long as you tell our diplomats, or Lord. ;-)

Trust me, i like you, and your crew, but in a game where all we have is short fuses, bad communication, and lots and lots of troops, things can get ugly very fast.

I hope you have a great game, all of you, and i look forward to fighting alongside you all.

thijzzz wrote:

Redbosn wrote:
amen to that. you heard him guys, talk more!! .
on the issue of leadership, we are going more open/democratic this time around. kind of like the three branch system, with me having ultimate veto power hehe. basically i would like us to be more interactive, have everyone have more of a say in what we do, but i like to be able to put my fist down when needed.

as to the attack team, the reqs are usual. you need to be VERY active, more than 2 hrs per day, and practically check your acct all day, you have to be able to follow directions/orders/instructions to the letter, regardless of whether you like them or not, and you have to dedicate your resources to only building an army. not from the start, but once you have enough infrastructure, your army should be everything. and you have to have experience with timed attacks etc. if not, you better learn fast

Red, i now know why you wanted access to our forum... ;-)
you have copy pasted our internal leadershipstructure.
We have Lord Hildegrim, being all cooperative and nice, but decisive and respected when needed.

We will be in the same area, cropkilling and bleeding all that oppose us too, so make sure to relay the alliances you make to all branches, and all independent alliances like us that like to ride beside you and your band of madmen.
and as for me, i wont be an external diplomat, i'll be the internal diplomat, freaking out ppl that go yellow too much.

some of us have not forgotten that you called us all sorts of things, that can be mildly summarised as independent, or harshly summarized as spoiled noob kids, so my sincere advise is to cooperate in a good businesslike style, and to keep sarcasm, or witty remarks, or ... well, anything our sensitive members might find offensive, or could explain wrong, to a minimum... ;-)
but you can bitch at us all you want, as long as you tell our diplomats, or Lord. ;-)

Trust me, i like you, and your crew, but in a game where all we have is short fuses, bad communication, and lots and lots of troops, things can get ugly very fast.

I hope you have a great game, all of you, and i look forward to fighting alongside you all.

hehe, you are forgetting that i have an itchy trigger finger for those that have "grudges" towards me . it would be pretty fun to test triumph against swat, but i don't think most of swat will be actually coming back, and i will have the disadvantage of starting lawschool in a month.. ah too late for the fun times :S

Will the spam section stay?

hot damn, can't wait for the server restart! I'd prefer being one of the people who starts a little later than other (1 or 2 weeks after server start). Gets me far enough out of the middle to expand easier in the future, and doesn't put me that far behind everyone else :-) Either way, I'll keep trolling the forums to keep up on the intel

also, i like the s3wc tag in front then the independent alliance name following that. and i'll be playing by the same name as last time....on an eggs kick right now hehe

Juevos wrote:also, i like the s3wc tag in front then the independent alliance name following that.

okkkk I'm little bit confuse now . I thought we are going to create a new alliance from previous s3wc alliance and have few branches and one leadership structure and one set of rules. didn't know that most of them are going independently though.

ok now what I understand is former s3wc alliance will go on their own and create their own alliances and use the s3wc tag with part of their previous alliance tag but will work together like we did in the end and these alliances will have their own leadership structure and rules....is that right???

anyone ???

It might be a mix of what you thought and what I said....it seems as though Triumph! will do their own thing, but still be cool with us (cuz they are cool cats themselves), and then those who want to be part of the s3wc can join up on the crew.

At least that's how it seems from my pov....but i'm also retarded and might have something mixed up

Hey, haven't posted in a while... so...

I will be gone on vacation the first day that the server is coming online, and I'll be gone for a week, so either way, I'll be joining a week late. I look forward to the restart though!

I think that if any groups want to be independent but closely aligned with s3WC that they should. Different people respond to different leadership styles. Red has a very definite style - doesn't appeal to everyone but does to many. So some will migrate to him; others to other groups. Some people had serious loyalty to their individual alliances last round, and I think they should continue those if they wish. This is a game, and the relationships we make in it are very important to some people. It is possible to have that and win.

Lady Aelia wrote:It is possible to have that and win.

Exactly! As our win last server shows.

and not to mention, having a genius mastermind like me helps a lot too

Redbosn wrote:and not to mention, having a genius mastermind like me helps a lot too

more like: "and not to mention, having a genius mastermind like me helps a lot too"

Redbosn wrote:how about "WLBB--we like big butts"? ok, just a joke heh. i don't think the name matters though, hell, we don't even have to have all the same name, as long as we know who we are

Wanting to name the alliance after your wife, eh Red? BAH!!

pavithra wrote:I think we have to choose a TAG soon . . .

So how 'bout the tag "TAG". Travian Allied Guilds. Team of Allied Gamers. Travian Action Guild. Trippy Alternative Gamers (for the psychedelic mushroom-loving hippies). Testosterone Attack Gurus. Etc, etc . . .

Though personally I would suggest everyone do as Triumph is doing, i.e. going independent. Forming a meta from Day One is a recipe for disaster. Everyone who wants to form an alliance should form an alliance, and let the chips fall where they may. The leaders all know each other now, and should keep in contact regularly, but don't start the power dynamics rolling too soon or you'll end up like Oh-G and his band of brigands.

Another disadvantage of forming an early meta, even if you manage to hold it together on the inside, is it's appearance and popularity on the outside. Meta's are inherently disliked, either because they are too weak or they are too powerful. Either is possible if you start as a meta. Keep in mind that just because a player was good in the last round, doesn't mean he/she will be good in this round. And each leader will have different recruiting styles and recruitment pools. Some wings of the meta may turn out to be worthless, which will give the entire group a bad name. Each alliance should have a chance to prove themselves before commitments are made. The opposite end of the spectrum, a too powerful meta, will be hated by everyone else as a matter of course, and you will have everyone and their brothers lining up to remove you.

Instead, I would suggest forming several independents, and each alliance should keep their Confederacies (and especially NAPs) down to a minimum. Through early and mid-game, the strongest alliances are those that can stand on their own. SWAT and TNA always looked tough, because they were Top30 alliances yet their Confederacies list was so short and NAPs were non-existent. For the people who really like playing together, you should join into the same alliance rather than forming Confederacies amongst alliances. Otherwise, form a few independent, friendly alliances and have a common meeting place (e.g. this forum) where members of the different alliance can come to talk, meet, learn argue, get advise, etc, without the flame wars of the Travian forum. That would allow everyone to interact and communicate, and hopefully form strong bonds, without giving the impression of a major meta that everyone wants to destroy.

Just my $0.02

wiggy u finally said something smart(j/k).
im in agreement with wiggy on this one if we form a meta in the beginning its hard to get know everyone and get good opinion on leadership decisions.

Actually there is a way for us to be independent alliances but in the same meta

in the old s7 a meta named Fit was formed it was originally 8 independent top alliances not of these alliances had a single wing

so if we did this style we could all have our own tag yet be in the same meta

and i say we form about 1 month or later in none of the early alliances ever survive no matter how preorganized

does anyone like the Fit meta idea?

I think we should designate (by vote of course) several leaders, and they should run their own alliances. However, since we all know each other and all the leadership possibilities are people that are friends with each other, we won't have problems.. dunno, i can't start till the 20th pbbly anyway, since i'm going to vacation (with a broken fucking ankle...).

Redbosn wrote:since i'm going to vacation (with a broken fucking ankle...).

I see that aligator finally got the best of you eh?

Set up the poll and they shall vote.

polls arent too successfull unfortudently everywhere but ecspessially in travian but we can try it and all support it

fyrebush wrote:

Redbosn wrote:since i'm going to vacation (with a broken fucking ankle...).

I see that aligator finally got the best of you eh?

Set up the poll and they shall vote.

i was thinking vote once the server starts. ppl won't be too keen on voting until there's a game to play

and no, not the alligator, some kid on the soccer field . i was playing a pickup game and got slide tackled at the ankle with my other leg in the air, turned my ankle after the impact, with my whole body weight on top of it.... needless to say, it hurtts :/

I think us all being closely allied at the start would work. Being a huge meta alliance from the start could well be a disaster. We all led alliances before, and so we are all comfortable with our own style of leadership and players. I think we should make sure we are all allied from the start, and work on growing in size and strength. Then later down the road we can discuss the change to a neutral mass tag when the need arises. In the meantime we can still call upon each other if we need support, but we all have time and space to breathe and become strong. The fact that we have all worked/played together before is a bonus because it means we have some idea of who we can rely on and how we can acomplish our goals together.

In terms of working together from the start, for whatever reason, we have all left it somewhat late to organise it. We are better off getting established, and then making plans for that for the future so the plan isn't rushed. Then we will do it properly and it won't fall apart.

Red: Sorry to hear you have a broken ankle. Hope it heals quick.

I think it's a good idea. if we create big alliance with 100+ members we will get the attention of other strong alliances on the server and I don't think it's a good idea. we can start few alliances in the same area and when the time comes we can change our tag and work for common goal like we did in the end. but we have to stay in touch so everyone knows what is going on (atleast the alliance leaders). we can use this forum to do that. I think we are little late to organize things, because we had more than 30 days to organize things. but late is better than never

Well i was wondering should i register in the NW because i want to found my own allaince or should i register in the SW

How many seperate alliances are starting in each of the quads? I say to have an equal amount start in each of the quads so eventually, we can have ALL the sections!!!

Talk about sim city eh? But it will be fun to control all four quads.

Damn, the more I think about it, and the closer it gets, the more I want to restart.

Edit: fixed grammatical errors.

Hehehe! Keep thinking about it and come back and join us all!!

if anyone is quitting pls inform me.. i free to take over the account.

( the server havn't start yet.. )